It’s time to go on a ride…
This one back a long time ago.
WAY back.
Back to the beginning…
Or at least very close to the beginning.
Not Genesis 1:1, but Genesis 6:4.
As we’ve just crossed into a new year, many people are signing up to “Read The Bible In A Year”.
Ever done that?
Doing that now?
If so, it starts off really good, very exciting, a lot going on.
You get the creation of the world, then you get Adam, then Eve, then the Snake in the Garden…
Then Cain and Abel.
And then only 6 chapters in you hit a major left-turn.
You get to Genesis 6:4 and you read this:
The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
And most people go HUH?
I’ve never heard about this!
My Pastor never preached about the Nephilim!
Who are they?
You’re in luck — your Pastor may have dropped the ball, but I’m here to explain.
First let’s define all the people at play here.
Some of you are not going to agree with my definitions, and we’ll discuss that in a moment.
Nephilim = hybrid creations of Angels mating with humans.
Sons of God = very clearly defined in the Bible by the doctrine of first usage (and elsewhere) as Angels.
Daughters of Men = human women.
Might Men = Nephilim = The “mythological” Greek Gods
Everyone doing ok so far?
This is in your Bible folks, and you’re about to realize it suddenly makes the entire Bible make so much more sense…
Stay with me.
For those of you on the “Read the Bible in a Year” mission, as you get a little deeper into the Old Testament you’re going to get to all the stories about God telling the people of Israel to go into neighboring cities and wipe them all out!
Kill the women! Kill the children! Kill all the animals!
I’ll say this again: that’s in your Bible folks.
So…how do you explain that?
How do you have the peaceful Jesus of the New Testament saying “if you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father” — but how then do you reconcile that with the God of the Old Testament who seemed to pick sides within humanity, telling one group of people to kill everyone from other groups, even women and children.
How do you explain that?
Doesn’t that sound almost “racist” or like Genocide?
It’s not, and I’m about to tell you why.
And it’s going to suddenly connect a lot of dots for you.
The way you explain that question goes directly back to Genesis 6:4.
You see, God created a world where everything reproduces after its own kind.
You read that a few chapters earlier in Genesis.
Humans with humans, dogs with dogs, etc.
When you mix kinds, you get problems.
Genesis 6:4 tells you flat out that when Angels mated with Humans they created Giants….”Mighty Men”…..Nephilim!
From that point forward, you have Giants all throughout the Old Testament.
How do you think they got there?
Your Bible already told you in Genesis 6:4, so it’s no Mystery.
But they appear everywhere after that point.
You have the famous David vs. Goliath, and Goliath was a Giant.
You have Og of Bashan who was believed to be anywhere from 9 -18 feet tall.
These are not just people like Shaq who grew a little bigger than everyone else…these are different creations.
And it’s where the Greek myths come from.
Perhaps they weren’t myths at all.
More on that in a moment.
2 Samuel 21:20 tells you they were even genetically different — they had six fingers and six toes (Gee, kind of like 666?):
20 Then there was another battle at Gath, where there was a giant who loved to fight. He had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot. 21 He defied the Israelites, and Jonathan, the son of David’s brother Shammah, killed him.
So…why did God instruct Israel to kill all the other groups of people?
Because their genetics had become corrupted from Genesis 6:4.
God was protected the bloodline, protected the DNA.
He was protecting 100% humans from human-angel hybrid “Giants”.
We’ll dig in much deeper here in just a moment, but that’s the groundwork.
Now I want to show you what AI (Artificial Intelligence) thinks about the topic.
You may have heard about the new AI Tool called ChatGPT that was released to the public.
It’s wild.
And I asked it who the Nephilim were.
It told me very clearly exactly what I just told you above:
Genesis 6:4 is a verse from the Bible that tells the story of how humans and angels had children together. The verse says, “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.”
The Nephilim were a group of giants who were very strong and powerful. They were also known as the “sons of God,” because they were believed to be the offspring of angels and humans.
According to the Bible, the angels who had children with humans were punished by God for disobeying His rules. God was unhappy with the angels because they had left their proper place in heaven and had come down to earth to live among humans.
God was also unhappy with the humans because they had allowed the angels to have children with them. God saw this as a sin, because it was not the way that He had intended for humans and angels to have children.
As a result of this sin, God decided to send a great flood to cleanse the earth of all the wickedness that had come about because of the angels and humans having children together. God chose a man named Noah to build an Ark, or a large boat, to save his family and a pair of every kind of animal from the flood.
When the flood waters finally receded, Noah and his family and the animals left the Ark and started anew on the earth. From that point on, humans and angels were no longer able to have children together.
This story from Genesis 6:4 teaches us about the importance of following God’s rules and doing things the way that He intends for us to do them. It also reminds us of the consequences that can come from disobeying God’s commands.
Now let’s address the most common rebuttal, and it’s what’s taught in Seminaries today.
It’s called the “Sethite Theory” and it basically says that it wasn’t angels at all, it was just the “Good sons of Seth” mating with the “Bad daughters of Cain”.
That’s what’s been taught in seminaries for the past 100 years, but it is NOT was the original belief was for centuries.
And it’s why your pastors only know that theory.
I’ll let Dr. Chuck Missler (a true “giant” in his own right and a wonderful teacher and scholar) explain why the Sethite Theory just doesn’t hold water:
Why did God send the judgment of the Flood in the days of Noah? Far more than simply a historical issue, the unique events leading to the Flood are a prerequisite to understanding the prophetic implications of our Lord’s predictions regarding His Second Coming.1The strange events recorded in Genesis 6 were understood by the ancient rabbinical sources, as well as the Septuagint translators, as referring to fallen angels procreating weird hybrid offspring with human women-known as the “Nephilim.” So it was also understood by the early church fathers. These bizarre events are also echoed in the legends and myths of every ancient culture upon the earth: the ancient Greeks, the Egyptians, the Hindus, the South Sea Islanders, the American Indians, and virtually all the others.However, many students of the Bible have been taught that this passage in Genesis 6 actually refers to a failure to keep the “faithful” lines of Seth separate from the “worldly” line of Cain. The idea has been advanced that after Cain killed Abel, the line of Seth remained separate and faithful, but the line of Cain turned ungodly and rebellious. The “Sons of God” are deemed to refer to leadership in the line of Seth; the “daughters of men” is deemed restricted to the line of Cain. The resulting marriages ostensibly blurred an inferred separation between them. (Why the resulting offspring are called the “Nephilim” remains without any clear explanation.)Since Jesus prophesied, “As the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be,”2 it becomes essential to understand what these days included.Origin of the Sethite ViewIt was in the 5th century a.d. that the “angel” interpretation of Genesis 6 was increasingly viewed as an embarrassment when attacked by critics. (Furthermore, the worship of angels had begun within the church. Also, celibacy had also become an institution of the church. The “angel” view of Genesis 6 was feared as impacting these views.) Celsus and Julian the Apostate used the traditional “angel” belief to attack Christianity. Julius Africanus resorted to the Sethite interpretation as a more comfortable ground. Cyril of Alexandria also repudiated the orthodox “angel” position with the “line of Seth” interpretation. Augustine also embraced the Sethite theory and thus it prevailed into the Middle Ages. It is still widely taught today among many churches who find the literal “angel” view a bit disturbing. There are many outstanding Bible teachers who still defend this view.
Problems with the Sethite View
Beyond obscuring a full understanding of the events in the early chapters of Genesis, this view also clouds any opportunity to apprehend the prophetic implications of the Scriptural allusions to the “Days of Noah.”3 Some of the many problems with the “Sethite View” include the following:
1. The Text Itself
Substantial liberties must be taken with the literal text to propose the “Sethite” view. (In data analysis, it is often said that “if you torture the data severely enough it will confess to anything.”)
The term translated “the Sons of God” is, in the Hebrew, B’nai HaElohim, “Sons of Elohim,” which is a term consistentlyused in the Old Testament for angels,4 and it is never used of believers in the Old Testament. It was so understood by the ancient rabbinical sources, by the Septuagint translators in the 3rd century before Christ, and by the early church fathers. Attempts to apply this term to “godly leadership” is without Scriptural foundation.5
The “Sons of Seth and daughters of Cain” interpretation strains and obscures the intended grammatical antithesis between the Sons of God and the daughters of Adam. Attempting to impute any other view to the text flies in the face of the earlier centuries of understanding of the Hebrew text among both rabbinical and early church scholarship. The lexicographical antithesis clearly intends to establish a contrast between the “angels” and the women of the Earth.
If the text was intended to contrast the “sons of Seth and the daughters of Cain,” why didn’t it say so? Seth was not God, and Cain was not Adam. (Why not the “sons of Cain” and the “daughters of Seth?” There is no basis for restricting the text to either subset of Adam’s descendants. Further, there exists no mention of daughters of Elohim.)
And how does the “Sethite” interpretation contribute to the ostensible cause for the Flood, which is the primary thrust of the text? The entire view is contrived on a series of assumptions without Scriptural support.
The Biblical term “Sons of Elohim” (that is, of the Creator Himself), is confined to the direct creation by the divine hand and not to those born to those of their own order.6 In Luke’s genealogy of Jesus, only Adam is called a “son of God.”7 The entire Biblical drama deals with the tragedy that humankind is a fallen race, with Adam’s initial immortality forfeited. Christ uniquely gives them that receive Him the power to become the sons of God.8 Being born again of the Spirit of God, as an entirely new creation,9 at their resurrection they alone will be clothed with a building of God10 and in every respect equal to the angels.11 The very term oiketerion, alluding to the heavenly body with which the believer longs to be clothed, is the precise term used for the heavenly bodies from which the fallen angels had disrobed.12
The attempt to apply the term “Sons of Elohim” in a broader sense has no textual basis and obscures the precision of its denotative usage. This proves to be an assumption which is antagonistic to the uniform Biblical usage of the term.
2. The Daughters of Cain
The “Daughters of Adam” also does not denote a restriction to the descendants of Cain, but rather the whole human race is clearly intended. These daughters were the daughters born to the men with which this very sentence opens:
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Genesis 6:1,2
It is clear from the text that these daughters were not limited a particular family or subset, but were, indeed, from (all) the Benoth Adam, “the daughters of Adam.” There is no apparent exclusion of the daughters of Seth. Or were they so without charms in contrast with the daughters of Cain? All of Adam’s female descendants seem to have been involved. (And what about the “sons of Adam?” Where do they, using this contrived dichotomy, fit in?)
Furthermore, the line of Cain was not necessarily known for its ungodliness. From a study of the naming of Cain’s children, many of which included the name of God,13 it is not clear that they were all necessarily unfaithful.
3. The Inferred Lines of Separation
The concept of separate “lines” itself is suspect and contrary to Scripture.14 National and racial distinctions were plainly the result of the subsequent intervention of God in Genesis 11, five chapters later. There is no intimation that the lines of Seth and Cain kept themselves separate nor were even instructed to. The injunction to remain separate was given much later.15 Genesis 6:12 confirms that all flesh had corrupted His way upon the earth.
4. The Inferred Godliness of Seth
There is no evidence, stated or implied, that the line of Seth was godly. Only one person was translated from the judgment to come (Enoch) and only eight were given the protection of the ark. No one beyond Noah’s immediate family was accounted worthy to be saved. In fact, the text implies that these were distinct from all others. (There is no evidence that the wives of Noah’s sons were from the line of Seth.) Even so, Gaebelein observes, “The designation ‘Sons of God’ is never applied in the Old Testament to believers,” whose sonship is “distinctly a New Testament revelation.”16
The “Sons of Elohim” saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all that they chose. It appears that the women had little say in the matter. The domineering implication hardly suggests a godly approach to the union. Even the mention that they saw that they were attractive seems out of place if only normal biology was involved. (And were the daughters of Seth so unattractive?)
It should also be pointed out that the son of Seth himself was Enosh, and there is textual evidence that, rather than a reputation for piety, he seems to have initiated the profaning of the name of God.17
If the lines of Seth were so faithful, why did they perish in the flood?
5. The Unnatural Offspring
The most fatal flaw in the specious “Sethite” view is the emergence of the Nephilim as a result of the unions. (Bending the translation to “giants” does not resolve the difficulties.) It is the offspring of these peculiar unions in Genesis 6:4 which seems to be cited as a primary cause for the Flood.
Procreation by parents of differing religious views do not produce unnatural offspring. Believers marrying unbelievers may produce “monsters,” but hardly superhuman, or unnatural, children! It was this unnatural procreation and the resulting abnormal creatures that were designated as a principal reason for the judgment of the Flood.
The very absence of any such adulteration of the human genealogy in Noah’s case is also documented in Genesis 6:9: Noah’s family tree was distinctively unblemished. The term used, tamiym, is used for physical blemishes.18
Why were the offspring uniquely designated “mighty” and “men of reknown?” This description characterizing the children is not accounted for if the fathers were merely men, even if godly.
A further difficulty seems to be that the offspring were only men; no “women of reknown” are mentioned. (Was there a chromosome deficiency among the Sethites? Were there only “Y” chromosomes available in this line?)19
6. New Testament Confirmations
“In the mouths of two or three witnesses every word shall be established.”20 In Biblical matters, it is essential to always compare Scripture with Scripture. The New Testament confirmations in Jude and 2 Peter are impossible to ignore.21
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5
Peter’s comments even establishes the time of the fall of these angels to the days of the Flood of Noah.
Even Peter’s vocabulary is provocative. Peter uses the term Tartarus, here translated “hell.” This is the only place that this Greek term appears in the Bible. Tartarus is a Greek term for “dark abode of woe”; “the pit of darkness in the unseen world.” As used in Homer’s Iliad, it is “…as far beneath hades as the earth is below heaven`.”22 In Greek mythology, some of the demigods, Chronos and the rebel Titans, were said to have rebelled against their father, Uranus, and after a prolonged contest they were defeated by Zeus and were condemned into Tartarus.
The Epistle of Jude23 also alludes to the strange episodes when these “alien” creatures intruded themselves into the human reproductive process:
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 6,7
The allusions to “going after strange flesh,” keeping “not their first estate,” having “left their own habitation,” and “giving themselves over to fornication,” seem to clearly fit the alien intrusions of Genesis 6. (The term for habitation, oivkhth,rion, refers to their heavenly bodies from which they had disrobed.24)
These allusions from the New Testament would seem to be fatal to the “Sethite” alternative in interpreting Genesis 6. If the intercourse between the “sons of God” and the “daughters of men” were merely marriage between Sethites and Cainites, it seems impossible to explain these passages, and the reason why some fallen angels are imprisoned and others are free to roam the heavenlies.
7. Post-Flood Implications
The strange offspring also continued after the flood: “There were Nephilim in the earth in those days, and also after that…”25 The “Sethite” view fails to meaningfully address the prevailing conditions “also after that.” It offers no insight into the presence of the subsequent “giants” in the land of Canaan.
One of the disturbing aspects of the Old Testament record was God’s instructions, upon entering the land of Canaan, to wipe out every man, woman, and child of certain tribes inhabiting the land. This is difficult to justify without the insight of a “gene pool problem” from the remaining Nephilim, Rephaim, et al., which seems to illuminate the difficulty.
8. Prophetic Implications
Another reason that an understanding of Genesis 6 is so essential is that it also is a prerequisite to understanding (and anticipating) Satan’s devices26 and, in particular, the specific delusions to come upon the whole earth as a major feature of end-time prophecy.27 We will take up these topics in Part 2, “The Return Of The Nephilim.”)
In Summary
If one takes an integrated view of the Scripture, then everything in it should “tie together.” It is the author’s view that the “Angel View,” however disturbing, is the clear, direct presentation of the Biblical text, corroborated by multiple New Testament references and was so understood by both early Jewish and Christian scholarship; the “Sethite View” is a contrivance of convenience from a network of unjustified assumptions antagonistic to the remainder of the Biblical record.
It should also be pointed out that most conservative Bible scholars accept the “angel” view.28 Among those supporting the “angel” view are: G. H. Pember, M. R. DeHaan, C. H. McIntosh, F. Delitzsch, A. C. Gaebelein, A. W. Pink, Donald Grey Barnhouse, Henry Morris, Merril F. Unger, Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Hal Lindsey, and Chuck Smith, being among the best known.
For those who take the Bible seriously, the arguments supporting the “Angel View” appear compelling. For those who indulge in a willingness to take liberties with the straightforward presentation of the text, no defense can prove final. (And greater dangers than the implications attending these issues await them!)
For further exploration of this critical topic, see the following:
- George Hawkins Pember, Earth’s Earliest Ages, first published by Hodder and Stoughton in 1875, and presently available by Kregel Publications, Grand Rapids MI, 1975.
- John Fleming, The Fallen Angels and the Heroes of Mythology, Hodges, Foster, and Figgis, Dublin, 1879.
- Henry Morris, The Genesis Record, Baker Book House, Grand Rapids MI, 1976.
- Merrill F. Unger, Biblical Demonology, Scripture Press, Chicago IL, 1952.
- Clarence Larkin, Spirit World, Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate, Philadelphia PA, 1921
And now for the visual learners out there, I give you Rob Skiba.
Together Skiba and Missler are the best on this topic.
I’ll let Rob Skiba break it all down for you right here as only he can:
And here’s a bonus…
You have Missler.
You have Skiba.
And you also have Jonathan Cahn, all in lock-step agreement on this issue.
Oh, and one more I will post a little farther down below: Trey Smith.
Chuck Missler.
Rob Skiba.
Jonathan Cahn.
Trey Smith.
All telling you the EXACT same story.
And it may soon become VERY relevant to your world…
Jonathan Cahn Explains The Return of the “Gods”
Longtime readers of WeLoveTrump know that we’re big fans of Jonathan Cahn.
Always have been, I think he’s one of the absolute best communicators and most fascinating people to listen to.
You can listen to Jonathan for 60 minutes and it feels like it’s only been 5 minutes.
And he always leaves you wanting more.
I’ve told you about his newest book, “The Return of the Gods” before but I just came across this great new video where he does a full teaching on the book:
This is really good and I know you’re going to enjoy it.
Watch here (and then scroll down for a bunch more information):
If you enjoyed that and want more, you need to check out Jonathan’s interview with Greg Hunter too.
When you first hear the title of his message is “The Return of the Gods” you might think Cahn has lost it!
And so has Noah for covering this!
Other Gods?
Doesn’t that violate the First of the Ten Commandments?
Yes, of course.
There is only one creator God.
But there are many fallen Angels who corrupted humanity and if your guard is already going up just read Genesis 6:4.
In fact, it’s a topic I’ve been covering for over 5 years now, and I’m so glad to see Jonathan Cahn now explaining it as well.
Five years ago when I reported on this, almost no one had heard of the Nephilim.
No one understood Genesis 6:4.
No one understood the true meaning of the “Giants” in the Old Testament.
But now it’s all coming out, and Jonathan Cahn is blowing the lid off it.
Here’s a quick summary from Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog:
Six-time, best-selling author and renowned Bible expert Jonathan Cahn has written a new book explaining the chaos and upheaval going on all over the world today. In a word, evil is trying to take hold of our world. Cahn’s book, “The Return of the Gods,” shows how demons and false gods are trying to repossess America. Cahn explains, “Evil is evil, and it’s manifesting in so many all across our culture—in every way. It involves falsehoods, it involves lies and changing morality on sexuality. It involves everything. Two thousand years ago, this is all they had. It was possessed back then. So, when Jesus sent the Gospel into the pagan world, it was a clash of spirits and principalities of gods. There is the One True God, and then there are the false gods. The Bible says we do not war against flesh and blood. We are not against people. We war against principalities. So, when the gospel comes in, there is this huge war. The pagans are trying to kill the Christians or you worship our gods. That’s why they were trying to kill them because Christians would not worship the gods. It was a war of the gods, but at the end of the day, the Gospel prevailed and the gods departed. The temples were emptied out. The shrines were abandoned. The gods of the ancient world were gone, but we are not just talking about gods, there are spirits behind them—demonic spirits. They don’t end, they stay there. So, the question is what would happen if the gods or the evil spirits returned to America and returned to the world? The fact is they have returned. . . . If western civilization was possessed by the evil spirits, the Gospel got rid of them. It was the greatest exorcism in history. What happens if that nation ever turns away from God? If it ever opens the door? These spirits are coming back. These ancient spirits or principalities are going to come back to our culture, to the West and to America, and they are going to come back to repossess it. They will repossess America. If you want to understand what is happening to America, it is this.”
Cahn gives several mind-blowing examples of the evil spirits “repossessing” America. Evil is in every aspect of life, and it starts in the schools, to the child sacrifice of abortion. Cahn says, “Evil always goes after the children.”
The evil spirits are helping people to “self-destruct,” according to Cahn. How do we stop this?
Cahn says, “The only thing that can save America is turning back to God. The only thing that can save America is revival. It doesn’t look likely, but God is not what looks likely. He is into surprises. People did not expect Donald Trump to be President. That was a surprise. The day I finished the book, “The Return of the Gods,” was June 24th. That was the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. . . . So, there is hope. As long as there is God, there is hope. . . . The question is what are we going to do about it? Are we going to be timid and let them cancel us out? Or, are we going to be bold and spread the word like the apostles did in the first century? That is what drove the gods (aka evil spirits) out. So, in many ways, it’s a big ‘If.’ God says, ‘If my people. . .’ that’s where this is.”
There is much more in the 49-minute interview.
Watch the interview right here on Greg Hunter’s channel on Rumble:
If you want more on all of this, you can preorder Jonathan Cahn’s new book here on Amazon:
I found it really interesting that this topic is EXACTLY the same as what Trey Smith just posted this week.
Same entities.
But of course Trey Smith has his own unique style of presentation that will really take you deep.
If you want to learn even more after listening you Jonathan, consider this almost a “Part 2”:
Please enjoy:
Backup here on Rumble:
And if you want even more, I don’t think it’s any accident that I myself covered this topic on my own a few days ago.
What are the odds Jonathan Cahn, Trey Smith and me all decided to cover this same topic all at the same time?
And while we all come at it from different angles, we’re all telling the same story.
The REAL story.
The Biblical story.
Read it right here:
Declassified Documents Reveal Aliens Are “Fallen Angels”
ATTENTION: do NOT dismiss this without first giving me a chance to explain it to you.
No, this is not fake.
No, this is not satire.
No, this is not “conspiracy theory”.
And a big thank you goes out to two different readers who both sent me this video at almost the same time. It caught my attention and as I watched it I realized they were dead on, right over the target.
It’s a lot to take in, but stick with me.
Because it’s researched, documented and real.
It’s even documented in the Bible in Genesis 6:4, so I’m bringing to you a story that is 100% told and backed up in the Bible, as well as now declassified official U.S. Government documents.
This article and the information in this article come from declassified FBI documents and there is one thing that is abundantly clear if you spend even 5 or 10 minutes looking into this, and that is that the government fully believes this is real and they believe they are communicating with real entites.
They also don’t believe they are “aliens” although they’re happy to let you believe that.
The real truth is that these programs existing, a veil was torn open through Demonic actions that the Bible warns us very specifically to not engage in, and ever since then we’ve been scrambling to contain it (without success).
That’s not MY opinion…that’s what the documents tell us.
So believe them or not, but I’m telling you documented fact from the FBI and from many other sources.
It’s basically the plot line of Stranger Things if you’ve seen that show.
Remember in Seasons 1 and 2 when they’re trying to shoot the laser beam into that blog to cut through it?
That’s a visual representation of what our government and Jack Parsons literally did in their Babylon Working Ritual over 50 years ago.
Again folks, this is not my opinion or my imagination, these are documented events.
Oh, and one other point: why do you think the Bible specifically warns against messing with this type of stuff?
You have two choices in how you answer that question, either: (1) because it’s fake and a waste of time, or (2) because it’s real and it’s very dangerous.
Which do you think is more likely?
Now let’s talk Jack Parsons.
Many people think NASA’s JPL laboratory stands for Jet Propulsion Laboratories, but most admit it actually stands for Jack Parsons Labs.
Jack Parsons had NO professional rocket science training, but suddenly emerged in the 1940s and 1950s as one of the leading rocket engineers (hey, kind of sounds like a guy who’s name rhymes with Skeelon Rusk, huh?).
So where did he get all of his knowledge to build these never-before-seen rocket ships?
The now-declassified FBI documents tell us quite clearly he got it from summoning demonic entities, most infamously at his Babylon Working ceremony where he opened a portal.
PAUSE: I tell you again, this is not my imagination running wild, this is documented.
But then we get to the story of a group called the Collins Elite.
Interestingly, there is almost ZERO record of the Collins Elite if you search Google…completely wiped out.
You will find more on DuckDuckGo.
The Collins Elite were a group of high level government agents who started working on the problem created by Jack Parsons, namely, the problem of him opening this portal and not being able to close it.
So what does the government do?
They do the only thing they know that works: they repeat what Parsons was doing.
They do the same demonic ceremonies and rituals.
But a small group who later coalesced as the “Collins Elite” spoke out against this. As Christians, they recognized this was wrong, and the ends did not justify the means.
So they worked to stop it.
This entire story is in the newly declassified documents and this video below does such a wonderful job explaining it all in an easy to understand way.
Watch here and then scroll down for links and sources to everything as backup:
Backup here on Rumble if needed:
I have no affiliation, just a fan, but you can see all of their films here: https://www.fourthwatchfilms.com
Now let’s give you some of those FBI declassified documents, shall we?
You can Google Search FBI File 6751 and find all of this yourself, right on the official FBI website and FBI Vault.
Test me out and check me….it’s real.
The FBI says it’s their most popular file in the entire database:
It’s the most popular file in the FBI Vault—our high-tech electronic reading room housing various Bureau records released under the Freedom of Information Act. Over the past two years, this file has been viewed nearly a million times. Yet, it is only a single page, relaying an unconfirmed report that the FBI never even followed up on.
The file in question is a memo dated March 22, 1950—63 years ago last week. It was authored by Guy Hottel, then head of our field office in Washington, D.C. (see sidebar below for a brief biography). Like all memos to FBI Headquarters at that time, it was addressed to Director J. Edgar Hoover and recorded and indexed in FBI records.
The subject of the memo was anything but ordinary. It related a story told to one of our agents by a third party who said an Air Force investigator had reported that three “flying saucers” were recovered in New Mexico. The memo provided the following detail:
“They [the saucers] were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed fliers and test pilots.”
After relaying an informant’s claim that the saucers had been found because the government’s “high-powered radar” in the area had interfered with “the controlling mechanism of the saucers,” the memo ends simply by saying that “[n]o further evaluation was attempted” concerning the matter by the FBI agent.
Guy Hottel BiographyGuy L. Hottel was born around 1902. He was a graduate of George Washington University in Washington, D.C., where he was a star football player. He was later inducted into the university’s athletic hall of fame. He entered the FBI as a special agent in 1934. In December 1936, he was named acting head of the FBI’s Washington Field Office; he was appointed special agent in charge the following May and served until March 1941. Hottel was re-appointed special agent in charge in February 1943 and served until 1951, when he took a position in the Identification Division. He retired in 1955. Hottel was married three times and had two sons. Following his FBI career, Hottel served as executive secretary of the Horseman’s Benevolent Association. He died in June 1990.
That might have been the end of this particular story, just another informational dead end in the FBI files. But when we launched the Vault in April 2011, some media outlets noticed the Hottel memo and erroneously reported that the FBI had posted proof of a UFO crash at Roswell, New Mexico and the recovery of wreckage and alien corpses. The resulting stories went viral, and traffic to the new Vault soared.So what’s the real story? A few facts to keep in mind:
First, the Hottel memo isn’t new. It was first released publicly in the late 1970s and had been posted on the FBI website for several years prior to the launch of the Vault.
Second, the Hottel memo is dated nearly three years after the infamous events in Roswell in July 1947. There is no reason to believe the two are connected. The FBI file on Roswell (another popular page) is posted elsewhere on the Vault.
Third, as noted in an earlier story, the FBI has only occasionally been involved in investigating reports of UFOs and extraterrestrials. For a few years after the Roswell incident, Director Hoover did order his agents—at the request of the Air Force—to verify any UFO sightings. That practice ended in July 1950, four months after the Hottel memo, suggesting that our Washington Field Office didn’t think enough of that flying saucer story to look into it.
Finally, the Hottel memo does not prove the existence of UFOs; it is simply a second- or third-hand claim that we never investigated. Some people believe the memo repeats a hoax that was circulating at that time, but the Bureau’s files have no information to verify that theory.
You can go to the FBI Vault and read the entire 69 declassified pages here:
Now for proof of the Babylon Working Ritual.
It’s all documented out in the open on Wikipedia:
The Babalon Working was a series of magic ceremonies or rituals performed from January to March 1946 by author, pioneer rocket-fuel scientist and occultist Jack Parsons and Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.[1] This ritual was essentially designed to manifest an individual incarnation of the archetypal divine feminine called Babalon. The project was based on the ideas of Aleister Crowley, and his description of a similar project in his 1917 novel Moonchild.[2]
Rituals of the working
Almost immediately after Parsons declared that the first of the series of rituals was complete and successful, he met Marjorie Cameron in his own home, and regarded her as the elemental that he and Hubbard had called through the ritual.[3] Soon Parsons began the next stage of the series, an attempt to conceive a child through sex magic workings. Although no child was conceived, this did not affect the result of the ritual to that point. Parsons and Cameron, who Parsons now regarded as the Scarlet Woman, Babalon, called forth by the ritual, soon married.[citation needed]
The rituals performed drew largely upon rituals and sex magic described by English author and occult teacher Aleister Crowley. Crowley was in correspondence with Parsons during the course of the Babalon Working, and warned Parsons of his potential overreactions to the magic he was performing, while simultaneously deriding Parsons’ work to others.[4]
Oh, I’m not saying it’s GOOD…but I am saying it’s REAL.
So, is the “Alien Disclosure” False Flag event next on the horizon?
I think so.
Here’s something we covered just a few weeks ago:
A “Wild Theory” On What Happens Next…
A reader sent me this video and I actually found it interesting enough to share with you.
So thank you to the very kind lady who send me this (name withheld for privacy).
This is a short 2-3 minute video where this lady talks about what she thinks is going to happen next on the world stage.
She literally says it’s her “wild theory” about what happens next, but…
…you know what?
I mostly agree with her.
I think it’s the last card they have left to play and I think they’ll play it soon.
Watch the short clip here and then I’ll give you more thoughts:
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I also found her two Bible verses interesting.
I had never made the connection about two verses mentioning the River Euphrates drying up in end times, and it’s fascinating that is literally happening right now!
So let’s look at those verses, here is the first from Revelation 9:
13 The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. 14 It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind. 16 The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.
And the second from Revelation 16:
12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
Ok, here’s my take on those verses.
The first verse appears to talk about God’s angels, not fallen Angels or Nephilim. So I’m not sure I agree with that interpretation.
But the second one literally talks about demonic spirits being involved.
And they both clearly talk about the River Euphrates drying up as a key sign.
So…my overall take?
I’ve actually been warning you about this for many years.
I’ll repost that information below because you need to read it.
You need to be informed about what’s coming.
You need to be prepared and not caught off guard.
Do I think an “alien invasion” is coming?
Yes I do.
Or at least I think that’s how they will try to describe it!
Important difference.
Keep reading if you want my FULL teaching and WARNING on the topic…
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BE READY: A Crisis Of Faith Is Coming To Deceive Many…
A “crisis of faith” is coming soon.
I’ve been warning you for a couple years now.
At first many people laughed or didn’t even understand it.
But now?
Now I find much less laughing, and a lot more people wanting to know the details so they will not be caught off guard and tricked by the coming great deception.
The Bible warns of it, did you know that?
The great deception that will cause many to fall away.
Recently Clif High sounded the alarm too.
Let me start off by saying Clif High does not come from a Christian worldview.
In fact, in his latest video he explains how he is “Cathari” which is something I had not heard of before.
It sounds similar to Christianity, but many notable and large divisions.
That said, I still find Clif to be endlessly fascinating, and his research is unparalleled.
And I note that the Bible does not teach us to not interact with people of other faiths…
In fact, when Paul visited Athens, Greece in the Book of Acts, he finds a completely pagan culture made up of many gods.
What does he do?
He engages with them and shares truth with them.
From Acts 17:23:
For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
So to everyone who says I should not engage with Clif or not cover him, I reject that.
I choose instead to add my perspective (which I believe is a Biblical perspective) to the conversation.
Back to Clif…
Over the years, he has had many things listed in his ALTA Reports that sounds absurd at the time he predicted them, only to have them happen nearly exactly.
I’ve covered many of those before, so I would dig into that again here, other than to note he predicted the fall of the U.S. dollar and the fall of the Federal Reserve, both of which we are currently witnessing happen right before our very eyes.
We are living through a new Bretton Woods and most people don’t even realize it.
But what I want to talk about right now isn’t financial….it’s spiritual.
And I think Clif is exactly right.
Clif predicts through his data mining work that something big is coming that will deceive many.
Sound familiar?
The Bible calls it the Great Deception.
The most common expectation is that it will include the discovery or “unveiling” that aliens are indeed here and among us.
Can you imagine that chaos that will cause?
Many expect it will be the last card the Deep State will play, because it is the absolute last card they have.
Even Ronald Reagan was talking about how an alien invasion would suddenly “unite” all of earth, remember this?
And so I believe it’s coming and so does Clif.
Many expect they will use Project BlueBeam.
Others think they will truly unveil aliens.
But I want to give you my take, so you are not caught off guard…
Do you know what the Bible says?
Do you know the Bible actually addresses this?
It’s true.
It’s right in your Bible only six chapters in, but many have never read it.
It’s in Genesis 6:4 when the Bible says the Sons of God came and had children with the Daughters of Men and they became Giant.
Let me translate…
The Sons of God are angels (fallen angels), the daughters of men are human women, they produced children and as you can imagine the hybrid beings were huge….giants!
The Bible calls them Giants or Nephilim.
The Fallen Angels are called Sons of God at times in the Bible…
The Book of Enoch calls them The Watchers.
The Sumarian Tablets call them the Anunaki.
But when you suddenly see the aliens announced and revealed, do not be caught off guard. You must know this is in your Bible.
Yes, the real, normal Bible.
It’s all in there, look it up!
You know what else?
Once you understand that basic foundational fact (which is why it’s so early in the Bible in Genesis) then the entire rest of the Old Testament makes sense.
The Old Testament constantly talks about races of Giants…the Anakim, the Rephaim, and many others.
Remember Goliath?
He wasn’t just tall like Shaq, he was a Nephalim descendent.
And this answers one of the biggest confusions and trip-ups for most people when reading the Bible….
They start reading along and all is going good and then God orders Israel to kill everyone in one of these giant tribes.
Seems harsh.
Seems kind of like genocide.
Until you realize this was a corrupted DNA chain.
These were not fully human, they were Nephalim and the Nephalim hated humanity. Killed humanity. Wanted to wipe out humanity.
Now do you see why God ordered them to be wiped out when Israel would win a battle?
There’s so much in here and I’ve written about it much more extensively here:
Who Were the “Sons of God” from Genesis 6:4? Three Theories.
And here:
DISCLOSURE Is Coming: Why It Has Everything To Do With Christianity — Matthew 24:24
So I write this to make sure you are not caught unaware…
Do not be alarmed and do not be deceived when this happens.
And according to Clif, his data shows it’s very likely to happen soon — as in, within a few months.
Don’t think the Bible is obsolete or irreleveant.
Hardly the case!
The Bible has been telling us the truth since it was written and it’s ALL OVER the Old Testament, we just haven’t opened our eyes long enough to read it and notice what’s in there.
And now that I’ve shared my take, I give you Clif High and his most recent warning which caused me to write this article.
I’m sure the comments below this article will be wild, and that’s ok….I look forward to reading them.
Now please enjoy Clif and his warning:
Here’s more…
Are You Ready For The Coming Great Deception?
It goes by many names….
“Disclosure”
“The Great Deception”
“Aliens”
Did I lose you yet?
I hope not, because this may be the most important article I have ever written.
Actually, I wonder if God has given me this large platform for the sole reason of getting out this message….of protecting against Christians being deceived by what is coming.
Yes, it’s that important.
So I will use my platform to get the word out, and I so appreciate Pastor John Kilpatrick for doing the same thing.
You actually might recognize his name or his face from a few years ago.
Back in 2019, he delivered this POWERFUL message about Witchcraft and attacks on President Trump:
Alabama.com had more details from the 2019 message:
An Alabama pastor asked his congregation on Sunday to pray against the witchcraft that he said is attacking President Donald Trump, and the sermon is getting a lot of attention on social media.
“It’s time to pray for the president,” said Pastor John A. Kilpatrick, who founded the Church of His Presence in Daphne in 2006.
Kilpatrick quoted 2 Kings 9:22, which attributes witchcraft to Jezebel. “When Elijah faced Jezebel, he was facing witchcraft,” Kilpatrick said.
“What’s happening right now in America, is witchcraft’s trying to take this country over,” he said. “It’s witchcraft that’s trying to take America back over.”
A video of the sermon that highlights the mention of witchcraft against Trump has more than 100,000 views on social media. The entire sermon can be viewed on the church’s web site.
Kilpatrick, an Assemblies of God minister, is best known for being pastor of the Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola when it hosted the Brownsville Revival, also known as the “Pensacola Outpouring.” More than four million people attended the Christian revival from 1995-2000. Kilpatrick left Brownsville in 2003 and started his own ministry. The Assemblies of God is a Pentecostal denomination with about 3 million U.S. adherents and 64 million worldwide that believes in the modern-day spiritual gifts of healing, prophecy and speaking in tongues. Church of His Presence is affiliated with the Assemblies of God.
“I am not being political, but I don’t see how President Trump bears up under it,” Kilpatrick said in his sermon. “He is as strong as I’ve ever seen a man be. But here’s what the Holy Spirit said to me last night and what He said for me to tell you. He said, ‘Tell the church that so far, Trump has been dealing with Ahab. But Jezebel’s fixing to step out from the shadows.’ That’s what the Lord said to me.
“He said, ‘Pray for him now, because he said there’s about to be a shift, and the Deep State is about to manifest, and it’s going to be a showdown like you can’t believe.’ So, I’m coming to you as a prophet, as a man of God, and I’m telling you, it’s time to pray for the president.”
The congregation applauded.
“Witchcraft was in full control and witchcraft was what knocked Elijah out of his position, took him out of power,” Kilpatrick said. “Oh my God. I heard the Lord say there’s going to be an attempt to take him out of power. Let’s stand and pray right now.”
He then began speaking in tongues, and added, “We’ve got to pray for this man.”
He spoke in tongues more, and shouted out, “God make him bold, make him strong! Preserve him, Holy Spirit! Keep him, Holy Spirit! Preserve him, Holy Spirit! Don’t let him lose his voice! Make him stronger than ever, Holy Spirit! Let no weapon be formed against him that will knock him out of power. Strengthen him, Lord! It’s time to pray, church. I believe our nation is in the balances.”
Kilpatrick, in an interview with AL.com today, said he voted for Trump in 2016 but said he’s not a Republican. “I’m an Independent,” he said. “There’s so much about the Republican party that’s offensive now. Both parties nauseate me. It’s not a Democrat thing, or a Republican thing. Trump has his faults. I don’t believe he’s a man of God. But he may be God’s man for this time. He’s a strong person. Maybe the Lord has risen him up to keep American from sliding further. He’s a flawed man, just like anybody else. He’s trying to reverse things in America.”
That’s the message he was trying to convey in the biblical analogy for Trump, he said.
“This president has been under pressure, in an Ahab-like situation,” Kilpatrick said. “When you graduate up to the main power broker, that’s Jezebel. I really do feel this way. His greatest attack is yet to come. It’s all a culmination.”
He wasn’t talking about a specific person who is a witch, he said.
“It’s not a witch after him, it’s a spirit of witchcraft trying to muzzle him,” Kilpatrick said.
Kilpatrick said he was not trying to tie in to Trump’s frequent complaint of a “witch hunt” in the special investigation into Russian meddling in the election.
“He calls it a witch hunt,” Kilpatrick said. “I didn’t put those together. It’s just a spirit of witchcraft. I’d say the source of it is evil. It’s manipulative, it’s controlling, it has its own agenda. I think it’s just a strong spirit of manipulation and control that doesn’t want to give it up.”
But what am I talking about today?
Today I’m talking about the coming Great Deception described in the Bible.
It’s 2 2 Thessalonians 2
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
And Matthew 24:24:
24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
The Bible talks about a coming “Great Deception” that will be so strong and so powerful and so convincing that even Christians will be tempted to be deceived by it.
I believe I may have been given this platform for the sole purpose of getting this message out to make sure everyone is ready and not deceived.
So let’s cut to the chase, what is the Great Deception?
Simply put, they will try to claim that “Aliens” created this world eons ago, and now they’ve come back to “save us”.
Seem far out?
It’s not.
First, on the secular side, one of President Trump’s final actions as President was declaring that a report on UFOs must be produced disclosing the truth to all Americans.
In fact, just today Deadline reported that report may come as early as next week:
From Deadline:
Finally, the truth may be out there.
The director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense are expected to present an unclassified report to Congress on UFOs in June, with speculation that the eagerly anticipated report could arrive as early as this Tuesday, June 1.
The report from the Director of National Intelligence will be compiled from heretofore classified military files. The focus will be on whether the decades-long rash of experiences and contacts by fighter and commercial pilots, warships and other sources with unexplained phenomena constitute a threat to the US.
The answers contained in the forthcoming report are unlikely to conclude that highly advanced extraterrestrials are the cause, although the report may not entirely rule them out, creating in effect a “soft disclosure.”
In the last year, a trove of US Defense Department videos have appeared. In one released last year, three black-and-white videos taken by Navy aviators showed UFOs in action, with the pilots astonished comments left intact.
In August, the Pentagon formed a task force “to detect, analyze and catalog UAPs that could potentially pose a threat to US national security. In December of 2020, US Senator Marco Rubio asked for a formal investigation. His request called for an unclassified report on everything government agencies know about UFOs within six months.
Rubio explained his reasoning on TV’s 60 Minutes. “I want us to take it seriously and have a process to take it seriously. I want us to have a process to analyze the data every time it comes in. There [should] be a place where this is cataloged and constantly analyzed until we get some answers. Maybe it has a very simple answer. Maybe it doesn’t.”
From a Biblical perspective, let’s go to Genesis 6:4 and you’ll see this is actually directly in the Bible.
I’ve actually written about this extensively over at my sister site, LivingGospelDaily.
Please read these three articles for MUCH more on that topic:
Disclosure Is VERY Close, Look At This
Who Were the “Sons of God” from Genesis 6:4? Three Theories
DISCLOSURE Is Coming: Why It Has Everything To Do With Christianity — Matthew 24:24
As you can see, I’ve been sounding the alarm since 2018….
But now others are jumping on board.
We truly seem to be on the cusp of something historic….and very scary if you’re not prepared.
I really like Pastor John Kilpatrick and I applaud him for giving an entire message on this topic.
I urge you to please watch the full message here:
And because that will almost certainly get banned within a day or so, I have a backup.
You can watch it here safely on Rumble:
To dig in even deeper, you need to read these:
Disclosure Is VERY Close, Look At This
Who Were the “Sons of God” from Genesis 6:4? Three Theories
DISCLOSURE Is Coming: Why It Has Everything To Do With Christianity — Matthew 24:24
But I’m not the only one warning you…
Here is Robin Bullock:
Robin Bullock Talks Aliens and Warns of the Coming Great Deception
I have been covering this topic HARD recently.
Not because I want to, but because it continues to surface even when I’m not looking for it.
Almost like God is wanting to sound the alarm?
Wanting to warn his Church?
Wanting to make sure people are prepared?
Maybe so.
Either way, I am going to continue bringing these warnings so that you are not led astray when some REALLY crazy stuff goes down.
Here’s the latest, this is Robin Bullock warning of the “Coming Great Deception”:
But that wasn’t all.
Then he answered the question directly: “Are there aliens? Do Aliens exist?”
His answer:
Want more?
Here’s Kat Kerr also talking about it recently.
Please watch here:
Folks…where does this ultimately leave us?
With two conclusions:
ONE: they will try to push the “alien narrative” on you soon.
Probably it will involve the Aliens having a cure for cancer or wild new technologies.
They will appear as our “saviors”.
TWO: they will be REAL, but they won’t be “aliens” as you think of them.
They will be the fallen angels of Genesis 6:4 and the demonic Nephilim offspring.
Oh, and THREE: space is very likely not real.
At least not in the way they’ve sold it.
Want to know what is real?
Read this:
NASA Duped By A Piece Of Chorizo
I have a friend who tells me I have ruined his blissful ignorance by exposing some of these major lies that exist in our world.
He jokes he misses the days of being an ostrich with his head happily in the sand.
Well, I’m back with another one.
And sorry to burst some bubbles moonboys, but most of NASA is fake.
Moon landing is almost certainly faked (more on that below)…
But one thing I do know for certain is that almost every image NASA shows you is faked or an “artists illustration”.
Really…
Just head over to NASA’s website and for almost every picture posted, if you read the fine print you’ll see comments like “artists illustration” or “combined file” or “computer image”.
Rarely, if ever, do they say picture.
How hard is it to just get up in one of those satellites and shoot a picture with an iPhone?
Why do we always have to do combined computer images and artists illustrations?
Don’t believe me?
Here are just two examples after I took one minute to search:
From NASA.gov, here’s a beautiful photo….except, what does the fine print say?
Three images. Computer combined. Hmmm….
Let’s try another, probably just a glitch.
Also from NASA.gov, the infamous Blue Marble:
Except…what does the text actually say?
I bolded it for you:
Recalling the famous Apollo-era pictures of Earth taken by lunar astronauts, this digital image is a spectacular portrait of the Western Hemisphere at the time of one of the strongest hurricanes ever observed in the Eastern Pacific.
This combination of science, engineering and artistry was generated by researchers in the Laboratory for Atmospheres at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD, using data from three different Earth-observing satellite instruments.
The research team’s goal was to assemble an image that recreates the visceral impact of viewing Earth from space with human eyes. The prominent storm raging off the west coast of North America is Hurricane Linda. Other obvious features include the shallow waters of the Caribbean and sediments around the mouth of the Amazon River.
The underlying image of the full disk of Earth and its clouds was taken on September 9, 1997, by a Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite (GOES) operated by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and built by NASA. The ocean data was collected in late September and early October 1997 by NASA’s Sea-viewing Wide Field-of-view Sensor (SeaWiFS) satellite. The land color is portrayed by a vegetation index calculated using data collected from September 9-19, 1997, by Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer (AVHRR) instruments carried aboard NOAA’s Polar Orbiting Environmental Satellites (POES).
These data are draped across a digital elevation model of Earth’s topography from the U.S. Geological Survey. The complete computer image file is 26 megabytes, making it one of the most detailed Earth images ever created by NASA!
The researchers chose to translate the digital data over land into a color scheme where heavy vegetation is green and sparse vegetation is yellow. The heights of mountains and depths of valleys have been exaggerated by 50 times their actual levels so that vertical relief is visible. The shadows for the mountains were calculated from the exaggerated heights.
The presence of the Moon in this image is an artistic addition. The lunar image was collected by GOES in September 1994, and has been magnified to about twice its relative size.
This image along with other visualizations of hurricanes and global datasets are available at various resolutions at: http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/rsd/
Image created by Reto Stockli with the help of Alan Nelson, under the leadership of Fritz Hasler
Seems like a lot of work!
Why not just point a camera and click?
Because they can’t?
Because it doesn’t exist?
I love how they don’t even try to explain the moon, they just straight up say that is an “artists addition”.
Ok, so now back to our headline topic.
Remember all the press coverage about the James Webb telescope?
All the slobbering by the media about how wonderful it was?
What amazing images it was capturing?
Yeah..turns out one of those beautiful images was a close up of a piece of chorizo.
Sausage.
Oh the beauty and the majesty!
Take a look:
APPARENTLY, IT WAS JUST A SLICE OF CHORIZO
A renowned physicist was forced to apologize to the public after he tricked people into believing that a snap of chorizo is a “star” captured by NASA. pic.twitter.com/NbS6ggwsr7
— The Philippine Star (@PhilippineStar) August 5, 2022
And here:
A photo of a 'space telescope image' that a scientist lied saying it was a star captured by NASA… is actually a slice of chorizo. He recently apologized for trying to trick people. pic.twitter.com/9KuK6UhlQP
— SAY CHEESE! 👄🧀 (@SaycheeseDGTL) August 7, 2022
The NY Post had more details:
A French scientist has had to apologize for his spicy space prank after he tweeted a picture of a slice of chorizo, claiming it was a distant star captured by the James Webb Space Telescope.
Étienne Klein — a physicist and director at France’s Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission — shared the photo of the slice of cured meat on Twitter last week, gushing over the “level of detail” it provided.
“Picture of Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to the Sun, located 4.2 light years away from us. It was taken by the James Webb Space Telescope,” a translation of the tweet read. “This level of detail… A new world is unveiled everyday.”
In some follow-up tweets, Klein apologized, informing followers the smoked sausage is strictly earthbound and a “form of amusement.”
“Well, when it’s cocktail hour, cognitive bias seem to find plenty to enjoy… Beware of it. According to contemporary cosmology, no object related to Spanish charcuterie exists anywhere else other than on Earth,” he wrote.
“In view of some comments, I feel compelled to clarify that this tweet showing an alleged snapshot of Proxima Centauri was a form of amusement,” he said in another tweet. “Let us learn to be wary of arguments from authority as much as of the spontaneous eloquence of certain images.”
Even Space.com had to do a mea-culpa (note even in this article the images are all “illustrations”):
(Image credit: NASA/Adriana Manrique Gutierrez)
A physicist excited Twitter fans this week with a stunning new photo from the James Webb Space Telescope, then surprised everyone by admitting it was just a slice of tasty chorizo.The scientist Étienne Klein, director of France’s Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission, shared the purported James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) photo on July 31. The photo shows a round reddish-orange object on a black background that appears to be a view of a star.
“Photo of Proxima Centauri, the closest star to the Sun, located 4.2 light years from us. She was taken by the JWST,” Klein wrote on Twitter(opens in new tab), according to a Google translation. “This level of detail … A new world is revealed day after day.”
But you should really believe these pictures of Jupiter are real:
New JWST images of Jupiter have everything: auroras, rings, moons. And this one is directly from NASA, so it’s definitely not chorizo. https://t.co/V5cifnjgAp pic.twitter.com/ABiLt6IL4s
— The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe ⚛️ (@SkepticsGuide) August 22, 2022
And this is DEFINITELY real:
C'omon NASA use something other than oranges and a slice of chorizo 🤡🤡🤣 pic.twitter.com/scIzy1AIec
— Syed Aliuddin (@SyedAliBiabani) August 31, 2022
Oh and of course those “photos” of Pluto that just so happen to have the same outline of the Disney dog character Pluto….yeah, those are totally real too!
When planet Pluto was downgraded to a moon, was Disney Pluto downgraded to a puppy? pic.twitter.com/8oqUAM04Ka
— PW Browning (Peter) (@browning_pw) October 24, 2020
The NASA graphic designers put the outline of the Disney character Pluto on the PLANET Pluto and people just go along with it like it's ok.🙄 pic.twitter.com/fZvWeAXFvz
— cyclopticalusion (@cyclopticalone) September 29, 2017
BREAKING: Walt Disney was from Pluto, dog character drawing was to remind him of planet. pic.twitter.com/ROfys7Naz4
— George Arsenal (@George_Arsenal) July 14, 2015
So anyway…
If they will lie to you about this, what else will they lie to you about?
Well, where should I start!
Maybe here:
A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon…
WARNING! WARNING!
Time for another installment of hard-hitting investigative journalism…where we aren’t afraid to create a little cognitive dissonance along the way!
Some of you will be very bothered by this article…
“How dare he question the moon landings!”
Sorry folks, but we don’t create the news here…we just report on it.
We also don’t create the “truth”…we just seek it out and set it free.
So buckle up buttercup, this could get bumpy for a few of you.
I can already hear many others saying “it’s about time Noah covered this!”
So here we go….
Did Buzz Aldrin just admit (again) that the moon landings were faked?
Well, it sure looks like it.
But we’ll give you all the evidence and let you decide.
A clip of Buzz Aldrin on Conan O’Brien’s Late Night Show from 2000 is suddenly going viral right now thanks to this post on TikTok:
@msmastafoxx Wait Til The End…🧐 #MsMastaFoXX #MyCreatorLife #Buzz #buzzaldrin #Nasa #Conspiracy #conspiracytiktok #Woketok #Viral #fyp #conanobrien #MoonLanding
In the clip, Buzz pretty clearly says the video of the astronauts walking on the moon was fake.
I don’t know how else you interpret that.
I mean, I know this is a comedy show, but nothing about this clip appears to be a joke or a bit.
Even Conan is taken aback and temporarily at a loss for how to respond (and it’s his job to never be caught off guard as a talk show host).
So watch the clip for yourself.
And for anyone shouting “CONTEXT!” I’ve got you covered.
Here is the full interview to watch the segment in context:
The Reuters Fact-Check team has already investigated and determined what you heard Buzz say is totally “False”.
Just another one we all got wrong!
God bless the fact-checkers, I don’t know where we’d be without them!
So somehow they’ve labeled this as “False” despite the part I bolded below where they seem to even admit that the footage is, in fact, mostly made of animations.
This is their full report:
Social media users are sharing a video of astronaut Buzz Aldrin being interviewed by American television host Conan O’Brien and claiming that Aldrin discussing parts of the moon landing broadcasts being animated is proof that it was all faked.
He was referring to animations used by broadcasters at the time in their coverage of the moon landing, intercut with real footage. The moon landing did take place and men did walk on the moon.
Examples of the erroneous social media posts can be seen ( here ) and ( here ).
A longer video of the interview, dated May 17, 2000, can be seen on YouTube ( here ).
At the 1:29 mark, O’Brien says: “Let’s talk about this because this is fascinating. I remember very clearly; I think anybody who was alive at the time does. I remember my parents waking me up and we went down, and we watched you guys land on the moon.”
Aldrin responds: “No, you didn’t. Because there wasn’t any television, there wasn’t anybody taking the picture. You watched animation so you associated what you saw with… you heard me talking about, you know, how many feet we’re going to the left and right and then I said contact light, engine stopped, a few other things and then Neil said ‘Houston, tranquility base. The Eagle has landed.’ How about that? Not a bad line.”
The moon landing took place on July 20, 1969 with astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. NASA said in 2006 that no one could find the original video recordings of the July 20, 1969, landing. However, in 2009 NASA released a complete digital make-over of the original landing footage that clarifies the blurry and grainy images of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walking on the surface of the moon ( here ).
A video compiled by CNN shows the available footage from the mission ( here ), including takeoff and the astronauts climbing down and walking on the moon.
An article ( here ) by the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum explains the challenges of recording footage of the moon landing and walking.
NASA contracted with Westinghouse for a black and white camera costing $2.29 million to capture the iconic moment, according to the museum. Photographs of the camera, which was stored in the lunar module’s Modular Equipment Stowage Assembly near the ladder Armstrong can be seen climbing down, can be seen ( here ).
“For us today, we can thank technicians for having recorded the broadcast, though the tapes assumed to be of the highest quality were never located despite searches for them in the last few decades,” the article reads. “What we see now on YouTube or in films are high definition scans of those best available copies.”
An article by Vox ( here ) says some television networks built sets to recreate some of the moments that were not able to be captured on video.
The National Science and Media Museum discussed the Apollo 11 broadcast on its website ( here ): “Many broadcasters used simulations to flesh out their Apollo programming. Networks paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for scale models of Apollo command modules and rockets. During the broadcast, these were used to create simulations of the mission which were then intercut with real footage.”
“The thing to remember is what news was like in the late 1960’s, not 24-hour continuous coverage,” Margaret Weitekamp, Chair of the Space History Department at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, said by phone. “The coverage of that trip needed to be explained to the public without the ability for continuous relay of video we are now used to.”
“Animations would have been a part of a constellation of different ways that that story was told over a series of days. At the time, the coverage would have been combined with animations that helped provide a broader picture of what was being done. But this certainly doesn’t invalidate that those landings took place.”
There is no evidence that the moon landing was faked or that astronauts did not walk on the moon. However, there is plenty of evidence that it happened. Reports about the landing can be seen ( here ), ( here ) and ( here ).
Photographs of the moon landing can be seen ( here ), ( here ), and ( here ).
Reuters has previously debunked claims that the moon landing was faked ( here ), ( here ), ( here ).
VERDICT
False. Astronaut Buzz Aldrin explaining that broadcasters used animations during their coverage of the moon landing does not prove that it was faked.
But that’s far from the first time Buzz has seemed to admit the whole thing was a fake.
You have to wonder if on his death bed Buzz will finally and unequivocally confess to the fake?
Watch this clip on Rumble where an 8-year old girl asks Buzz why we never went back to the moon after 1972…
A GREAT question!
Because there is no other example in recorded history where something new was discovered and then we just stopped going there.
Imagine discovering America in 1492 and then the Europeans just decided to never send another boat.
Right, didn’t happen.
Would never happen.
Doesn’t pass the smell test.
So watch this short clip where Buzz says the reason we never went back is because we never went in the first place!
It must have felt good to finally get that off his chest I guess?
And again, if you want the full context and full interview, I have that here:
Oh, then there was this gem…
Bart Sibrel (more on him in a minute) caught Buzz one day out on the street and he asked him something simple: swear on this Bible that you actual went to the moon.
Buzz becomes visibly agitated and then punches Bart in the face.
Watch:
https://twitter.com/HaymakerHub/status/1528208649306390528
Cause that’s normal, right?
For more on Bart, his book Moon Man is a must read:
Bart is most famously known for his film: A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon.
For anyone who believes the moon landings are 100% real and beyond any reproach, I challenge you to watch this 45 minute video and then report back to me.
I’ve never heard from anyone who has watched this and not had their eyes opened:
Backup here (since that will likely get taken down by the Tube):
And one more backup here:
Now let’s examine the big Press Conference Buzz, Neil and the third guy had when they got back from WALKING ON THE FREAKING MOON!
You’d think they’d have smiles from ear to ear that simply wouldn’t wipe off…right?
You know, something like how Sir Edmund Hillary looked after climbing Mount Everest — see below:
Look at how happy sir Edmund Hillary is and Tenzing Norgay they just climbed mount Everest
Look at buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong and Mike Collins they look like they were at a funeral they are obviously lying at this press conference they never went to the moon.They know the lie pic.twitter.com/mEqjsPTfYH— Persia❤️ اریایی (@roya21042019) February 16, 2022
Nope!
Instead they looked like this…☝️
You might say they looked exactly as you or I might look if you had just faked a Moon Landing and deceived and entire nation.
But that’s just my take, you be the judge.
Do these look like guys who just walked on the Moon?
Buzz Aldrin & Neil Armstrong at the first press conference after returning to Earth.
Three truth tellers. The look of confidence, honesty & pure happiness after the greatest accomplishment in modern history.
Wow! These guys are my idols. 👨🚀 pic.twitter.com/1onOk2IeAk
— An0maly (@LegendaryEnergy) August 18, 2019
You can watch the whole solemn press conference here on Rumble — it’s stunning:
So…did Neil and Buzz and the third guy really walk on the Moon?
Or was it all faked?
And if it was faked, was it faked because….it has to be?
Perhaps because there is a FIRMAMENT over our world, like Genesis tells us?
It’s literally in the first 7 verses of the Bible, almost as if God wanted to make it pretty hard to miss?
Genesis 1:
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Almost as if we couldn’t be through the firmament, let alone get to the Moon, even if we wanted to?
If this is blowing your mind, then I’m only getting started.
Please keep reading…👇
Biblical Trees Beyond the Ice Wall…?
Our governments and the so-called “Elites” have lied to us for a long time about just about everything, and I think it’s HIGHLY likely that they are lying to us about the shape of the Earth and the nature of where we live.
Everyone still ok?
Did we lose anyone?
Well buckle up buttercup because it’s about to get wild!
This article is probably going to be one of the most controversial things I have posted in a long time.
And I’m ok with that.
I know some people will judge a book by its cover and immediately write this off, but I give you one caution before you do…
There is a famous quote I’d like to share with you that has been attributed to many different people over time, so I’m not sure who said it first, but it goes like this:
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
Powerful.
Read that again and let it sink in.
If you want to remain in ignorance, write off an idea before you even look into it. Surefire way to stay uninformed.
So let me begin with a question:
Why is no one allowed to go to Antarctica?
Oh sure you can go, but only to a few selection locations. And NO further. And only with a guide.
Why is that?
Why is it so important to protect whatever’s down there?
Why have all the countries of the world signed on to a treaty about Antarctica?
Yes, even Russia and Ukraine, who are currently engaged in WW:III have agreed on one thing: something VERY important is down in Antarctica and we have to protect it and prevent anyone from going and exploring.
Why is that?
What could possibly be so important about ice?
Unless of course if they have lied to us about the shape of the Earth?
Unless Antarctica is not at the bottom of the “globe” but actually makes up the ring surrounding it?
Sounds crazy at first until you begin to investigate, and it very quickly becomes something that has you scratching your head.
Let’s start with this video:
Biblical Trees Beyond the Ice Wall…. pic.twitter.com/fzsN79IN0T
— PaulsCorner21 (@TNTJohn1717) October 8, 2022
Think that’s just some crazy Tik Tok video?
It’s not.
You’re probably familiar with Answers In Genesis, right?
They do NOT espouse a “flat Earth” world view, but they did publish this article titled: “Stumped By Forests in Antarctica”.
Here is a portion:
Forests in Antarctica? This frigid, forbidding continent is full of surprising evidences for the worldwide flood.
Is Antarctica on your bucket list of vacation destinations? It’s on mine!
What could possibly be of interest in Antarctica? After all, the continent at the bottom of the world is covered in ice and snow, and the temperatures are always below freezing. As the coldest, driest continent, it has one of the harshest environments on the planet and harbors a world of extremes. Turbulent winds and snowstorms can last days and even weeks, and the endless barren terrain makes Antarctica the world’s largest desert!
For half the year it’s a polar summer, when the unforgiving sun shines 24/7. Then, during the six months of the polar winter, the continent plunges into complete darkness.
So why would I be interested in visiting Antarctica? Well, to see rocks, of course! I’m a geologist.
Unlike the Arctic, which is simply an ice sheet floating on the ocean, Antarctica is composed of rock covered in ice and snow. Huge jagged mountain ranges jut up through nearly a mile of ice and snow, exposing rocks with all sorts of treasures, if you know what to look for.
Just two summers ago, a team was surprised to discover not just one but five “forests” piled on top of each other. They claimed the supposedly 260-million-year-old fossils represent a series of different forests that grew slowly and were buried one on top of the other over millions of years. They were looking for clues to understand how climate changes contributed to their extinction.
Finding such mysteries then putting them in the biblical perspective is why I love my profession and want to visit places most people would never consider.
Found—Fossil “Forests” of a Strange Extinct Plant
The team was led by Erik Gulbranson, a professor of geosciences at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, who set up camp in the central Transantarctic Mountains. They found several layers of tree stumps buried upright with parts of their roots still connected. They also found impressions of long, broad, flat leaves jumbled together in massive mats.1
These remains have been identified as fossils of an unusual extinct plant called Glossopteris, which is unlike any plant alive today. Pieces of this plant are commonly found in large Permian coal beds that are mined throughout the southern hemisphere, such as in Australia and South Africa.
The discovery of these plants wasn’t the big surprise. In previous expeditions the same team found similar “fossil” forests in the same rock unit in the central Transantarctic Mountains. Lab studies confirmed that all the fossil wood specimens belonged to the same genus, Glossopteris.
But their earlier analysis uncovered a surprise. The long-held assumption was that the Glossopteris plant was strictly deciduous (meaning its leaves drop annually in the autumn). Scientists made this assumption because they usually find their fossil leaves in mats, similar to thick mats on the floors of modern deciduous forests. The new analysis showed they were a mix of deciduous and evergreen trees. How could this be?
Based on their evolutionary assumptions about slow changes over millions of years, scientists suggested a possible explanation. They claimed that earth’s cooling climate had forced these late Permian polar forests to adapt to environmental stresses. The accumulation of these stresses ultimately caused their extinction.
There’s a lot more out there than your government is telling you!
And of THAT I am 100% confident.
Here’s another one, from the Christian Times:
A Christian geologist has argued that the recent discovery of fossilized tree stumps in Antarctica confirms the Bible’s account of a global Flood.
Live Science reported last month that a team of scientists led by Erik Gulbranson, a paleoecologist at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, had discovered a forest of fossil trees in Antarctica, which is said to be an indication that the climate was warmer there in the past.
While the researchers have not dated the forest precisely yet, they surmised that it flourished about 280 million years ago before it was rapidly buried in volcanic ash, which preserved it down to the cellular level.
However, Dr. Tim Clarey, a research associate at the Institute for Creation Research (ICR), contended that the fossilized trees are more consistent with the Biblical account of a global flood just thousands of years ago.
“This discovery should be no surprise to those who take Genesis as literal history. The Bible clearly describes a global Flood that affected all land masses—why should Antarctica be an exception?” he wrote in an article published on ICR’s website.
Clarey explained that dinosaur and mosasaur (massive swimming reptiles) fossils are found on every continent including Antarctica, which he says suggests that a much warmer global climate existed before the Great Flood.
He further noted that some creationists have tried to explain the presence of temperate climate fossils in Antarctica by claiming that the Earth had “rolled” on its axis during the Flood, resulting in the North Pole shifting from central Asia to its present position.
But Clarey pointed out that the temperate and tropical-type flora and fauna fossils, like dinosaurs, can also be found in central China — which he said would have been the north pole if the earth indeed rolled on its axis.
He contended that the entire globe was warmer before the global Flood and that the forces that are required to explain the shift on the Earth’s axis has not been resolved and remains a speculation.
Gulbranson, who specializes in geochemistry techniques, noted that the plants found in Antarctica were so well-preserved that some of the amino acid building blocks that made up the trees’ proteins can still be extracted.
Clarey argued that the secular science community cannot provide a viable explanation for such discoveries.
“How could proteins and original amino acids survive for millions of years?” he asked. “These trees were buried rapidly during the global Flood described in Genesis. Temperate and tropical plants and animals were caught up and quickly buried in the ash, mud, and sand that engulfed them in this cataclysmic event. These fossils remind us that God’s Word is true,” he went on to say.
Another video:
https://www.tiktok.com/@cardeecuebrav1/video/7118792799650106670?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7118792799650106670&lang=en
But….but….we went to the Moon!
How can this be?
Right, about that:
Mars vs Greenland…. pic.twitter.com/SVrA2bTc7r
— PaulsCorner21 (@TNTJohn1717) October 9, 2022
And this:
Buzz Slipped Up Again 😂 – Part 1 pic.twitter.com/pj8aAy2wxG
— PaulsCorner21 (@TNTJohn1717) October 10, 2022
And this:
Buzz Slipped Up Again 😂 – Part 2 pic.twitter.com/Npmw5TQbCw
— PaulsCorner21 (@TNTJohn1717) October 10, 2022
Let’s go back to the Bible:
The earth is a topographical level plane where the sun, moon and stars circle above us. Research #flatearth pic.twitter.com/kkOpSvHTk7
— Flat Earth Zone (@FlatEarthZone) October 9, 2022
And now let’s go to my friend Dave Weiss.
I had a brand new guest on my show recently over at The Daily Truth Report…Dave Weiss who goes by the name “Flat Earth Dave”.
If you got a little triggered at what I just typed, go back up and read that quote again.
Because here’s the deal…
My mission here from Day 1 has always been to follow the truth anywhere we find it.
And that is never more true than when the truth we find is (1) in direct conflict with what the powers-that-be want you to think and (2) in complete alignment with the Bible.
And that’s what we have here.
Mind blown yet?
We’re only just getting started. and open I don’t love the term “Flat Earth” because it carries with it a lot of mockery and nonsense, but I do like the term “Biblical Model of the Earth”.
I also like doing my own research.
Dave and I chatted for over an hour and my goal was just to ask questions and open up the topic in a way that might lead many people to realize this isn’t crazy at all — and in fact, is much more legitimate than you may have ever imagined.
Some of the things we discussed are why can a compass only point north? Ever wondered that? If a compass is just a magnet, why do they only point north, why never a compass that points south?
Unless…it were not possible?
We break it down in the video.
We also talk about why perhaps the Georgia Guidestones HAD to be demolished right now…
Why?
Because they had a hole in the center that always lined up to the north star.
The only problem with that?
Science has been telling us the north star shifts each year by small degrees, but enough that over the 40 years that Guidestones were up that the hole should no longer have lined up — not even close.
Except….it still did.
Perfectly aligned.
Almost as if we lived on a still, flat Earth, with the sun, moon and stars set above us — exactly the way the Bible describes.
My favorite part was when we looked at the emergency landing of airplanes.
This is the one I think will probably open the most eyes.
Sixteen different examples of planes making emergency landings and guess what?
By their normal flight plans, they landed in places they should not have been anywhere close to.
Except…if you look at a Flat Earth model of the world, then they landed almost exactly where they were supposed to be, in a direct line flight path.
Sixteen of them!
I could go on and on, but I want to turn you loose to watch this one yourself.
Remember the principal from above before you watch:
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
You can watch here on Rumble:
And for those YT fans…
Here on YouTube (if they keep it up):
You can find Dave online here:
Direct Link to The Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac Clock app – https://qrco.de/bbizVA
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https://www.youtube.com/c/DITRH/videos
And now I’d like to dig in even more to what the BIBLE has to say about the place we live…
Through and through, the Bible describes a still, stationary, flat plane.
But don’t just take my word for it.
I want to give you some extra info from Rob Skiba who was an absolute genius when it came to this.
First, I want to address why this is even important in the first place.
Good question, right?
Why would yours truly even be spending any time on this?
From Rob Skiba’s TestingTheGlobe he answers that really well:
Before we begin, I must say it quite literally astounds me that Christians can’t see why this Flat Earth Controversy is important to nail down. Why does this matter? Well, just off the top of my head:
1) Genesis is the foundation of ALL that we believe in the Bible to be true. If Genesis is wrong, then it ALL crumbles under a faulty foundation. Genesis says NOTHING – zip, zero, nadda – about the Earth being set in motion (orbit or rotation) around the sun. In fact, the sun doesn’t even show up until AFTER the Earth is already in place with life ALREADY in existence. Genesis says the sun, moon and stars were placed INSIDE the SAME firmament within which that Earth was formed, not outside of it. Thus, we have a completely enclosed system, within which the sun, moon and stars move, NOT the Earth. You can Yoga-Jujitsu-Wrestle Mania twist and distort the text into pretzels all you want, but it won’t change what it says.
2) IF what we are seeing concerning the Flat Enclosed Earth thesis is true, then we are all there is. We are center stage. We are the main attraction and there can be NO argument as to whether or not there is a Creator. None. His existence could not possibly become more blatantly obvious than in this model.
3) IF the Flat Enclosed Earth thesis is true, evolution goes out the window and the theory of Ancient Alien seeders is obliterated. In this regard, I believe we become painfully aware of the Great Deception… and will NOT be fooled by it.
4) IF the Flat Enclosed Earth thesis is true, then we can NOT EVER trust NASA or the government about ANYTHING and we will finally be forced to fully trust YHWH’s Word as our sole source for truth and stop trying to bend and manipulate it to fit false paradigms.
5) If heliocentricity IS false, then Scripture IS true. If Scripture IS true, and can thus be taken literally, why should we not take it just as literal when it describes the earth as fixed, not moving, set on a foundation of pillars, carved as a “circle” with edge boarders inside something with four corners, enclosed under a dome?
The next question often tied to the first one is “Why would anyone lie about this?”
Again Skiba answers:
Along with those emotions comes an all too common question: Why?? What’s the motivation to lie to us about the shape and nature of our world? To me, the motivation is quite clear:
1) First get people to doubt YHWH’s Word by destroying the very foundation of our Bible: Genesis – specifically the Creation account.
2) Set up a new paradigm, where God is out and “science” is in. Evolution removes YHWH from the equation.
3) When evolution finally runs its course and becomes utterly bankrupt, introduce the idea of “Intelligent Design” but deny the True Designer His due credit and place it rather on “Ancient Aliens.”
4) Promote the Ancient Alien theme as much as possible in all forms of media by perpetuating the concept of Earth as a tiny “blue marble” orbiting an average sun in an average galaxy among trillions of other galaxies in an ever expanding Universe. With so much “potential for life to exist” in such a vast expanse, the idea of alien scientists being our creators seems a lot more plausible over time and heavy indoctrination.
5) The stage is set for our “alien creators” to return and bestow upon us their “miracles, signs and wonders” in order to convince us all the more that all religions are false. We then put our trust in them. Finally, when Christ does return, we are all convinced that He is the enemy and our united world gathers together to make war with Him.
Wow, sound familiar?
Sound like anything currently happening the world?
It does to me.
I said earlier that the Bible is a “flat earth book” through and through.
Now let me back that up.
Again from Skiba’s TestingTheGlobe, I give you all relevant scriptures:
Scriptures concerning the nature of the heavens/sky above and their relationship to the earth:
Job 9:
6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
7 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit {Hebrew: “chug”} of heaven.
Job 22:14 (HCSB) Clouds veil Him so that He cannot see, as He walks on the circle of the sky.
Job 22:14 (ASV) Thick clouds are a covering to him, so that he seeth not; And he walketh on the vault of heaven.Job 26:
7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
8 He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is not rent under them.
9 He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it.
10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.
11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.
12 He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud. 13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Genesis 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;
2 Samuel 22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.
Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Psalm 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.
Psalm 78:
21 Therefore the Lord heard this, and was wroth: so a fire was kindled against Jacob, and anger also came up against Israel;
22 Because they believed not in God, and trusted not in his salvation:
23 Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened the doors of heaven,24 And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven. 25 Man did eat angels’ food: he sent them meat to the full.
Psalm 104:
1 Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:Psalm 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set {Hebrew: “chaqaq”} a compass {Hebrew: “chug”} upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep.Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He’s the one who sits above the disk of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He’s the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in,Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am
the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isaiah 48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.
Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
Amos 9:6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
Amos 9:6 (ASV) it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heavens, and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; Jehovah is his name.Amos 9:6 (ESV) it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heaven, and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; the LORD is his name.
Amos 9:6 (Darby) It is he that buildeth his upper chambers in the heavens, and hath foundedhis vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: Jehovah is his name.
Amos 9:6 (NASB) The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth,He who calls for the waters of the sea And pours them out on the face of the earth, The Lord is His name.
Scriptures concerning the nature of the earth below the firmament:
Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
Job 37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.Job 38:
1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Genesis 1:
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are
the Lord’s, and he hath set the world upon them.2 Samuel 22:16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the Lord, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.
1 Chronicles 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. Psalm 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were
discovered at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
Psalm 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.Psalm 93:1 The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psalm 96:
9 O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth.
10 Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall notbe moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
11 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof.Psalm 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Psalm 104:
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.Psalm 136:
6 To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.Proverbs 8:
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set {Hebrew: “chaqaq”} a compass {Hebrew: “chug”} upon the face of the depth: – (ESV) When He established the heavens, I was there,
When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep.
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He’s the one who sits above the disk of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He’s the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in,Isaiah 43:6 I’ll say to the north, ‘Give them up’! and to the south, ‘Don’t keep them back!’ Bring my sons from far away and my daughters from the ends of the earth—
Daniel 4:
10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.
Matthew 4:
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
John 17:24
Father, I desire that they also, whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Revelation 20:8 He will go out to deceive Gog and Magog, the nations at the four corners of the earth, and gather them for war. They are as numerous as the sands of the seashore.
Scriptures concerning the nature of the sun, moon and stars:
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Genesis 1:
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.Deuteronomy 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Judges 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.
Psalms 19:
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.Psalm 136:
7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:
8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:
9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.
Psalm 148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.Isaiah 38:8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
Ezekiel 32:
7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.
8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord God.Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
1 Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Revelation 8:
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Again, applying no preconceived notions upon the text, how do you imagine a newcomer to the Scriptures would view the heavens, earth, sun, moon and stars just based on what you’ve read here? Would he see a spinning, heliocentric, globular Earth in an ever expanding universe? Or would he see something vastly different? I believe – without a doubt – he would see something completely different from what we’ve all been taught to believe. If this is not already abundantly clear to you, the remainder of this document will explain why.
If I were to be perfectly honest here, I’d have to say that I do not get a spherical globe, spinning around in an endless void of space from my reading of the above Scriptures. The Bible seems to be telling us, in no uncertain terms, that we live on a still (as in stationary), flat, enclosed earth. The following explains why I believe this way.
Oh, and as to “why would they lie about it?”
Here you go:
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